"I always really liked the open spaces ‘cause you know I like to go outdoors and stuff, fishing, I still go fishing a lot. Then I used to go hunting a lot of the time. My father and a lot of his friends, some of the guys from the church, always liked the outdoors. I remember we used to go deer hunting, and we would…. So ya know, I like the outdoors. And one thing, when I moved out there, I said oh yeah since my wife liked it, I knew I was right there on the Heinz, ‘cause I used to take my nephew down here fishing in the 60s but because when Heinz was just a big impoundment. So, I kind of knew the area, and I loved the open spaces, and would take the dog and we would just walk all around, ya know, so I enjoyed it."
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